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    Anonymous
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    Both Ch. 8 and 9 explain Taiwan's current predicament and the ties between the U.S. I remembered it being stated several times that Taiwan (and as Rigger notes) "…is a nation starved for international recognition" (p. 165). U.S. government officials are big news and treated as if official diplomats. Also, when we visited the Presidential Office, the list of nations that officially recognize the ROC was short and many of the nations were themselves tiny-like El Salvador.

    The U.S. applies a strategy called "strategic ambiguity," that perpetuates a level of uncertainty within the ROC and PRC toward US policies and these countries. Opponents of U.S. recognition explain that it would be unwise to help the ROC with independence especially when the PRC is bigger and richer than Taiwan (p. 188). The U.S. essentially fears making an enemy out of mainland China.Whatever economic prosperity and political freedoms Taiwan has gained in the last 30 years, the caveat seems to be independence. Rigger mentions the fear the Want Want Holdings caused with the acquisitions of different media outlets that enabled them to hold a monopoly in the Taiwanese media. People feared that because they were pro-unification, a message would be dispersed on their outlets to convince those of the need to unify with the mainland (p. 201). In my opinion, after visiting both countries, Taiwan needs it independence. It is just too different from the mainland. It seems cowardly that the US would not recognize the ROC at this time, or at least be a intermediary between the two, so that the question of independence could be resolved once and for all.
    edited by jilliansheehan on 7/24/2015

    #21882
    Anonymous
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    Chapter 8, 9, Epilogue

    The U.S. owes Taiwan its support, protection, and loyalty. I would also argue we owe Taiwan an apology for our cavalier treatment of a long time friend. Since 1971 the U.S. has been part of a global competition to win the economic favors of China. By 1979 the U.S. had terminated treaties with and publicly humiliated Taiwan by formally recognizing China. Thankfully the U.S. Congress passed the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA) which provided “continued relations.” Shelley Rigger likened the TRA to the last fairy’s wish that lightened the curse in Sleeping Beauty. Though there was no formal U.S. embassy anymore the act provided for the establishment of the American Institute. Equally important and more substantive was the clause providing defensive weapons to Taiwan. The U.S. has pursued a policy of strategic ambiguity in cross straight relations. This keeps both Taiwan and China unsure about U.S. response to actions or provocations by either nation.
    The U.S. is responsible for Taiwan’s current predicament as well as its continued success. The U.S. supported the nationalists in 1945 and elevated Taiwan as a champion of freedom in the face communist expansion during the cold war, making it a target for China. Pressure from the U.S. accelerated Taiwan’s trajectory to full democracy which fostered Taiwanese identity and all the accomplishments to date. Modern weapons and strategic ambiguity by the U.S. continues to prevent a violent invasion of Taiwan.

    I can honestly say I have an answer for why Taiwan matters. It matters to me. It matters to every one of us on the study tour, and it certainly matters to the people of Taiwan. It matters that a vibrant, productive, creative nation has the right to pursue its own destiny. I can’t agree with the inevitability of Taiwan’s unification with China. There is everything to lose and nothing to be gained. If Taiwan continues to bide its time, mind its tongue, cultivate its friends, stand as a beacon of democracy, and make itself indispensable to the world, Taiwan wins.

    #21883
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    I find it most interesting that Taiwan, a country I loved, could see myself living in, and therefore one that resembles modern culture, politics, and economics, is not recognized by most industrialized countries. It was interesting going to the President's House and seeing all of the countries that recognize Taiwan as a country but not seeing countries I have been to. Riggers does a nice job of explaining that it was in the 1970s when the United States switched their allegiance from supporting Taiwan to now supporting China. Their reasons were China is bigger and there is a larger risk involved if they do not cooperate with them. Unfortunately, once the US took a side then other countries and organization followed suit. I found it most interesting that President Ma cannot even come to the United States and if he is invited to speak he must instead do so through videoconferencing.

    Few countries recognize Taiwan because, unfortunately, they are being overshadowed by the larger mainland China. China has grown immensely and members of prominent political organizations like the UN are more interested in appeasing China and not recognizing Taiwan as the Chinese do- as part of the PRC.

    I was asked at the delicious steak dinner what "strategic ambiguity" means and now, after reading the chapter, I understand that it means the United States cannot let Beijing or Taipei know how we will respond or when. We must choose our battles but we can, when necessary, intervene on Taiwan's side to help them militarily. Strategic ambiguity means we can choose when to listen to both sides and when we will clearly side with Beijing. It is interesting that we are still following what seems to be a similar political stance that we were using in 1949 with Taiwan and China, when we first recognized ROC and supported Chiang even though he was a dictator and ruthless, but now we are supporting China.

    #21884
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    Strategic ambiguity doesn't surprise me when it comes to US foreign policy. The US has both goals and morals aligned with those of Taiwan. The fact that the US would revoke its recognition of Taiwan in favor of China, for economic benefit, is in line with what the US has done quite often in the past. If the US recognized Taiwan, one of our largest trade partners would most likely drop us. The US could easily recognize Taiwan and by example, other countries could recognize its legitimacy as well. I can't help but feel that until the capitalist world looks past profit and towards human rights, values and fair practice, countries like the ROC will remain powerless until tensions with China are resolved.

    #21885
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    In chapter 8, Rigger provides several reasons for China's claim to Taiwan. From historical connections to fear of other revolutions, Rigger provides simple, to the point views for the forced connection. These reasons can be taken and made accessible to our students. If we are going to teach about the China-Taiwan relationship post 1949, our students will undoubtably ask , "why"? Why does China want Taiwan? These few reasons can be rewritten for a high school students and the teacher could include a "prediction" "reaction" aspect to this assignment.

    #21886
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    “To help maintain peace, security, and stability in the Western Pacific and to promote the foreign policy of the United States by authorizing the continuation of commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, Taiwan Relations Act” " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://china.usc.edu/taiwan-relations-act-1979

    The relationship between the United States and Taiwan is an unofficial relationship. The boundaries of this “relationship” are not clear. Are they allies? Are they cordial? Are they…? It is not understandable. For the US, is better to maintain this ambiguity in order to prevent negative relationships. In 1979, the United States-People’s Republic of China Joint Communique changed diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing and recognized the government of the P. R. C. as the only legal government of China. Taiwan was left “out to dry”. While the U.S will continue to have unofficial relations, they will not support its independence. By maintaining strong unofficial relations, the U.S is maintaining a sense of peace. The 1979 Taiwan Relations Act provides the details for this unofficial relationship. One of the things that the US committed to was maintaining its defensive capability. Not necessarily defending them. Confusing, I know. According to Rigger, “It should be clear by now that America’s Taiwan policy is subtle and complex, and that is no accident…The policy is ambiguous in the sense that neither Taipei nor Beijing can be entirely certain how the United States will respond to actions they might take.” (p.182) That’s "great" for the United States, but not the other countries involved. The US needs to be clear with their stance.

    This reminds me of two scenarios:
    1) A classroom with ambiguous rules and expectations- a student can claim that he/she didn’t know what was expected of him/her and constantly be disruptive.
    2) A relationship- “Are we exclusive? Or hanging out?” Officially unofficial does not work in either scenario.
    edited by malvarenga on 8/3/2015

    #21887
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    As in my discussions with people about Taiwan's status, my students will also want clarification as well. In order to become a UN member state, the first few requirements were that it submits an applicaiton, 9/15 member countries approve, and that neither China, France, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America do not vote against it. My guess would be that China would vote against Taiwan's application and thus, the UN member state would end at #3 in the process. The question was posed whether USA owed anything to Taiwan and it seems that we can relate to its struggles and possibly identify with its desire to want independence, maybe why we choose strategic ambiguity. Taiwan matters to China in that it believes if Taiwan becomes independent (worldwide recognition) other territory will also develop independent movements as well. As China is continuing to develop, it is seeking to consolidate resources and maintain them for its own use, not lose or have to fight to keep their already existing "territory". It is viewed as a market economy and a democracy, thus an influential and important relationship with the USA. This could be used towards the end of 7th grade HSS as an example of modern examples and bring up the current Presidential elections with the female candidates and our experience with our meetings during our study tour.

    #21888
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    The US and other nations continue to stay away from publicly backing China or Taiwan in this decades old conflict. Although some leaders in these nations may want to governments or militaries to intervene and force the issue, others encourage a hands-off approach. In 2002, Tucker wrote that the US should continue to respect Taiwan’s choices and encourage a peaceful path towards a mutually acceptable unification deal (P.194). While the political course of action seems to be inaction, the people we met in China and Taiwan were not so reticent.

    From our visit to Baidu, we found that Chinese citizens are using mobile technologies to connect to local and global communities. From our visit to the Taiwanese production company, we learned that Taiwanese and Chinese viewers watched provocative shows that used comedy, satire and drama to challenge political and social differences. With masses of people consuming, sharing and discussing more political and social topics, the juxtaposition of these dialogues will help to shape new perspectives within both nations. By consuming and embracing these forms of communication, I believe a culture of awareness and action is developing in China as well as Taiwan.

    Taiwan has shown that it is capable of establishing a democratic government. As Fonte stated, Taiwan has successfully transformed itself from “an authoritarian state to a real democracy” (P.190). If Taiwan can transform itself, it begs the question if mainland China can do the same thing. After meeting and talking with people from both places, I am hopeful for social and political change. While these changes may not happen over night, small allowances like easing of restricted search terms online or airing another controversial Taiwanese talk show may be signs of progress. I am also hopeful that the growing social, cultural and digital interactions will encourage China’s leaders to look more closely at their system of governance to make changes that benefit the people. If that happens, I think then China and Taiwan would be in a much better position to begin to resolve their political problems.

    #21889
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    With any U.S. policy, we, in large part, think about our interests and our interests alone. Although, we often use fancy rhetoric to make it appear otherwise. In regards to the current political context of China and Taiwan it is a complex and ongoing discussion, debate, and global issue. The reality is there isn’t ONE view from China and there isn’t ONE view from Taiwan. Further, the U.S. has vested interest in both. We have a heavy interest with the Mainland in an economic sense. Their hard power is rivaling that of the U.S.-Soviet nations circa Cold War era. While Taiwan is an emerging democracy and we have continually pledged that we would support democracy and liberty around the world.
    Nevertheless, we are in this predicament. Rigger calls the U.S. policy “strategic ambiguity”. We are ambiguous with our recognition of Taiwan as a formal nation, not to upset China. Yet, we socially support Taiwan in other avenues. A perplexing, yet necessary circumstance dealing with the status quo.

    #21890
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    Visiting Taiwan was such a great experience that it is hard to accept anything less than full recognition and support as what the nation is due from the world, never mind the US. Taiwan has all the characteristics of the kind of country one would want to see included in such international organizations as the United Nations, and yet because the PRC is such a big player in world affairs, Taiwan looks stuck in this isolated position indefinitely. Although the US tactic of strategic ambiguity lacks the moral high ground that we tend to value in American intervention in foreign affairs, we seem to be as stuck in that role as Taiwan is in its isolation. Until China's position on Taiwan evolves, the world's support must continue to flow towards Taiwan through soft rather than "hard" diplomacy.
    Taiwan is a great subject for teaching the history of the Cold War and the sometimes unintended consequences of American foreign policy decisions. Nixon and Kissinger seized unprecedented levels of control and secrecy in the period leading up to the great state visit of 1972, which represented a serious about-face for Nixon, who had built his reputation as an active anti-Communist. Nixon's conversion from that position to his DeGaulle-influenced adoption of the idea of detente and a more European style balance of powers approach in dealing with Russia and China has had massive unintended consequences for Taiwan in particular. It would be interesting to learn more from Taiwanese sources about the years between Nixon's visit in 1972 and full normalization of relations between the US and the PRC under Carter in 1979. What did the Taiwanese think about what was happening between the US and China? How much did they feel it as a direct attack on their original relationship with the US?
    Ultimately it looks as though economics and the disposition of the South China Sea will continue to be the primary factors determining how the PRC handles Taiwan. We saw at the maritime museum how massively well prepared Taiwan is to go on playing a major role in shipping in the Pacific. The PRC must envy the success of a company like Evergreen, which first prospered in the 1970s--at the same time that Taiwan was losing its hold on official diplomatic relations. As Rigger shows with the Want Want example, multinational corporations are as much players in this political negotiation as the states themselves.

    #3903
    clay dube
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    Ch. 18 "The International Birdcage"

    Taiwan is bigger in population than 150 countries in the UN. Why isn't it in the UN? Other international organizations? It has a large and advanced economy. Why do relatively few countries recognize it?

    Why is US policy toward Taiwan called "strategic ambiguity?" Why does it irritate some people in Taiwan and China?

    What is the Taiwan Relations Act? Has it worked? What are the arguments for it and against it?

    You can read the Taiwan Relations Act here:
    http://china.usc.edu/taiwan-relations-act-1979

    Ch. "Why Taiwan Matters to the US and to the World"

    Does the US owe Taiwan anything? Is the US responsible for Taiwan's predicament?

    Tom Christensen, US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State
    http://china.usc.edu/us-deputy-asst-sec-christensen-%E2%80%9C-strong-and-moderate-taiwan%E2%80%9D-september-11-2007 Put forward US policy/responsibility to Taiwan.

    Epilogue

    Rigger focuses on the Want Want media company and battles over media concentration/diversity. You can see the Want Want website at:
    http://www.wantchinatimes.com/

    More recent disputes centered on the services agreement. See these articles:
    http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2014/04/politics-taiwan

    http://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/protesters-in-taiwan-mark-anniversary-of-sunflower-movement/?_r=0
    edited by Clay Dube on 7/7/2015

    #21891
    clay dube
    Spectator

    Some Taiwanese have modified their passports in order to convey their thinking on Taiwan's status. Check out the link to see the article and more pics.

    https://www.hongkongfp.com/2015/08/12/i-am-from-the-republic-of-taiwan-taiwanese-declare-independence-with-passport-stickers/

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