I really enjoyed the Blue China documentary. I was only vaguely aware of the working conditions and plight of the factory workers in China and this documentary brought a new understanding of the situation/issue. I would be interested in seeing the documentary in its entirity. I was surprised to learn that the inspectors arrival is announced and the workers are coached in their answers. Seems like capitalism has created a monster issue that is difficult to redirect. It would be nice to know how to buy goods from China that has not supported this corrupt manufacturing system.
I had seen the documentary on TV. I was shocked at the labor conditions, lack of government supervision and the descrepency between the worker pay and the profit. The workers are basically in endentured servatude. I was amazed they let the footage out of the country.
I wanted to comment on Dr. Chen's lecture. While I really found the many facets of the Chinese economy interesting, I felt a little like I was being fed propaganda. I don't think China's enconomy is as open as he led us to believe. The 150 mil in chicken feed bought from the US makes up what percentage of the chicken feed used in China? I'm thinking a small one. Also, was it bought at US market value or at "China's" market value?
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A very interesting meeting on Monday. I was taken aback by Professor Chen's photo of the public swimming facility. How do people deal day-to-day with such high population density?!
As always, I enjoy hearing the life experiences of our presenters. Can't imagine sharing kitchen and restroom facilities with so many other families!
I have seen video clips similar to the information presented in Blue China. It is very hard to imagine the lives of these young men and women. But as Clay mentioned, it may offer more than they would have in their rural living situations. I will look differently (and appreciatively) now on goods purchased that I know are produced in China.
Although not the focus of the presentation, since it was mentioned, more information on gender and population issues as well as on environmental issues would have been very interesting.
The information presented on trade was thought-provoking, especially the point Professor Chen kept mentioning about what do we produce that China could use -- airplanes, computer programs, etc. -- things that don't get loaded on cargo ships...
Maybe it's hard for you to imagine how many people are there in China. Attached is one photo taken between 1/26-2/2 right before Chinese New Year. There were around 100,000 to 400,000 people gathering in Guang Zhou Train Station daily waiting for trains to bringing them home for the Chinese New Year. Due to the severe snow storm in about 17 provinces during that time, almost all transportation means in China were shut down or stopped. Millions of factory workers who came from other provinces working in Guangzhou and surrounding areas were waiting for trains to take them home for the most important Chinese holiday. Of course, most of them were disappointed. Sometimes photos speak more than words.
This picture might give you some idea how many people there are in China. Guang Zhou is just one city in China. Imagine the other big cities, provinces, and the whole country! All of people there need to eat. So, 150 millions of dollar worth chicken feet imported to China was not surprised me at all. Professor Chen was not exaggerated.
Here is another photo taken outside Guang Zhou Train Station in early Feb.
China Blue was a good eye opening film. The day after the film i used it in my classroom as one example of child labor to go along with my topic discussion on the United States during there first industrial revolution. Using facts from our modern world is the best way to captivate students and promote good class discussions!
I agree. I was horrified by the film China Blue and the factory conditions. I would love to be able to tell how to avoid buying goods that have been produced under such conditions. I was so startled to learn that not only do they make practically nothings, but this wage can be witheld from them for any reason. It stated that sometimes they are not even paid anything for several months. The level of contenentment though seemed surprisingly high..... maybe it is related to the last meeting where the profesor stated that the lowest rates of depression resulted from a discrepancy between the way one is raised and the way one is living now..... I guess if that's all the workers know it doesn't seem as bad; they simply accept it.
Interesting information from the session:
China uses 50 percent of the cement in the world and 1/3 of world’s steel
China smokes 1/3 of the world’s cigarettes
Chinese uses 450 million cell phones . . . and
50 million satellite dishes
and eats 136 million dollars of chicken feet.
More fascinating facts:
Chinese bought all the scrap metal from twin towers
120,000 lawyers in China
The China Blue documentary provides an enlightening look at the underside of China's "progress." It is important to remember that although China represents 12 percent of the world’s economy—30 percent of the world growth—with a GDP of $8.1 trillion --- human rights and democracy are abysmal.
True capitalistic growth goes hand in hand with democracy, many Americans — especially conservatives-like to say. China's growth suggests a different reality.
I know there is something that you cannot imagine; I saw many surprising faces when Professor Chen told us the sharing kitchen and restroom.
In my memory, we were still using the shared rooms in 1980, maybe it's still being used in some places. Actually, it's not that bad, you have the chance to chat while cooking and get to know your neighbor. At that time, people who stay in an apartment with a shared kitchen and restroom was one of the happiest thing ever happened to the family. No matter it has a shared kitchen or totally as yours, you're admired by people around you.
I think the housing conditions have changed dramatically during the past 30 years, and are still changing now. The change can be described like this:
house-----apartment ------house
People first moved into apartment because it's clean and well equipped, but now, more and more people begin to buy single house because they want a bigger space and more diversity, for example a yard.
Where did you find the "China Blue" video? I've been looking around for it...did you purchase your own copy? -Mike Blois
Hi Mike,
I recorded my copy off the air.
I think the handout included info on China Blue. It can be purchased. Much of the film is also available in streaming video at: http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/chinablue/
Click on the "get the dvd" on the left side of the screen. This could be included in your library grant purchase. The link will direct you to:
http://teddybearfilms.com/chinablue
They aren't upfront about the cost of the films. Presumably they have different rates depending on the intended use. [Edit by="Clay Dube on May 13, 4:55:24 PM"][/Edit]
Thanks Clay! I found the "Blue Kite" at the Redondo Library but not China Blue. I'll check out those links you suggested, thanks again! Mike