ok so I was "inspired" to start this thread because I'm sick right now :~ (right around finals!) and I was wondering were there special types of remedies that your family used when you were a kid instead of Western type medicine?
In my family there were a lot. Asian oils were used a lot - whenever you had a tummy ache, headache, or back ache, you'd just rub it on and get a funny cold/hot feeling. We had another one that I'm not sure if you guys will know.. you take a boiled egg (w/o the yolk) and put a silver dollar coin in the middle. You then wrap it in a thin cloth, ball it up and rub it all over the sick person's body. It sounds weird but it WORKS.. you always feel tons better after. And the coin turns a dark, almost black color (nothing happens if you aren't sick supposedly). Another version of this is to used the Asian oils, rub it on the back, and then use like a spoon and "scratch" all over the back (it gets really really red sometimes..)
Have you guys heard of these techinques or do you just think my family's weird
Most definitely. I'm so glad you started this thread, because I love Eastern medicine. The battle between Eastern and Western medicine is always a force to be reckoned with in my household. Our philosophy is "Do as much as you can with Eastern medicine and if it that doesn't work then go to Western methods EXCEPT in cases of surgery."
And yes the "varieties" of Asian oils abound in our house. My own medicine cabinet in my bathroom back home is stocked with at least 5 different oils. In my opinion I think all the oils do pretty much the same thing. . .as you mentioned the soothing icy/hot feeling and then magical healing occurs. I am also familiar with the boiled egg trick. However we just boil the egg, crack the shell open, and stick it in a hankerchief. We generally use this for serious bruises; as a result the bruise heals more quickly than just leaving it alone to its own devices.
Also for whatever reason my dad has a really bizarre attachment to Tiger Balm. He uses it for EVERYTHING. . .cuts, bruises, bug bites, stomach aches, etc.
I had one particular experience which greatly affirmed my faith in the effectiveness of East asian methods. Right below your ankle is a small roundish bone that sticks out slightly less than your ankle. Well for whatever reason I popped a fluid sac and that part of my foot swelled and it looked like I had 2 ankles; it was freakish. My dad brought me to this sketchy medical office in the heart of Oakland Chinatown where the "doctor" (I don't even know what kind of training he had) gave me some ointment that is commonly used in Hong Kong hospitals. I rubbed some of that stuff on my foot and literally two days later or less my foot was back to normal. When I had gone to my Western pediatrician previously, they couldn't do anything for me.
no i've heard of these remedies too... in fact my grandma carries a little bottle of oil with her everywhere cus she tends to get carsick, which is kind of a problem here in LA... but yah i remember one time i had a really bad case of cramps and my mom rubbed oil on my stomach.. it actually helped! i started to feel a lot better and eventually it went away...
well I played a lot of sports and when I injure my ankle or legs instead of just taking pain killers, I also would have acupuncture therapy. I have no idea what the theory behind this is but I personally really think it works. The doctor would simply poke a needle in my body and instead of feeling pain, I would feel sore and a tingling sensation, and after that, the stress on the wound really gets alleviated. I also took chinese herbal medicine sometimes when I got sick. My mom would put the medicine in a pot, cook it for a couple of hours, and the end result is a big cup of black bitter water. After drinking the medicine, I would feel much better though so I do believe that there are remedies and some things modern science can't explain.
not that it is completely relevant or whatnot, the statement of unexplanable phenomenons in medical practices brought up memories of a topic my brother and i were looking into, which was the area of pseudoscience. psuedoscience does not consist of miracles....its all explainable, by the placebo effect. this means, psychologically, you feel improvement, but its usually temporary and not medically significant. whether asian remedies fall into this category or not, i actually doubt. this is because they use actual items that would count as being semi-pharmaceutical drugs and/or practices that actually work. so kudos to these practices; for instance, acupuncture as mike brougth up, IS NOt a psuedoscience. there is no evidence of such.
some good examples of pseudoscience can actually include astrology, cold fusion, intelligent design, chiropractory , and near death experiences. the significant one of these is chiropractory, which i actualy did research on. our brains are interesting; they play tricks on us ALL the time, whether we know it or not. believe it or not, chiropractory is a huge industry that makes big bucks. knowledge = power; ignorance is bliss but its also sad =]
My grandma used to always rub this Dragon type oil on my stomache when I had a stomachache or on my joints when they hurt and she called it "mama yao" or "grandma oil." I think it was mostly psychological but even just the smell made me feel better. Other than that, I don't think I encountered much of the superstitious Asian medicines. However, my mom does tell me that when she was trying to conceive me, she and my dad were in Japan and the Japanese women that were the wives of the people that my dad was doing business with gave her some turtle soup and told her that it would help her have a baby. Soon after, she was pregnant with me.
My mom worked as the librarian for a Traditional Chinese Medicine school for a while, and ever since then she always puts in some kind of root in her soups.....but it worked to build my immune system because I didn't get sick as often ever since. But anyways, yeah, whenever I get sick, I'd take tylenol and stuff but my mom would also give me Chinese brand medicine such as banlangen among other stuff. Sometimes I prefer the Asian remedies because you get about the same effect but you don't have to worry as much about overdosing.
Asian oils, yes that was all my parents used and forced me to used. Whenever i was sick, my mom would perform "coining" on me, where she would use the asian oil (the one that feels all cool when you put on) and use a quarter to start rubbing the oil against my back. It hurt!!! but after, i did feel kind of better. My mom said the redder it got, the more it worked, so i everytime it looked like i got wiped really bad on my back, it meant i got a good coining session. :~ haha
Whenever I get body aches, my mom would "coin" me too. I think it's one of the most effective remedies. At first glance, especially seeing the red marks, its seem rather bizarre and scary to those who are not acquainted with the remedy. Another remedy was the Easern medicine, where you "steam" the herbs in a special pot and extract the liquid. I've actually never tried it, but I think my parents do drink those once in a while. It's interesting to see when and how often we use these remedies, especially in the U.S. Why choose these instead of Western medicine? As for me, I know that "coining" is more effective when it comes to body aches than say tylenol. So I guess a mixture of both (whichever one is more effective on certain things, not necessarily at the same time) is beneficial!
I just remembered something, have any of you seen the movie called "Gua sha"? It's about this Chinese family (mom, dad, son, and grandpa) living in US, and their kid was taken away by Social Services because they thought the parents were abusing the kid because there were red steaks on the kid's back. But it was actually one of those Eastern remedy where you use some kind of device and repeatedly scrape the back that will improve your health because it induces the blood flow (or something like that). By the way, the movie was good too, it's mainly about this Chinese family living amongst mainly caucasian community and their legal battle to get back the son taken away by the Social Services.
I think Asian remedies are interesting........ and also becoming more popular.
Some of my friends & I used to tease each other about going to see the "Asian Witch Doctor" aka "The Guy who Gives you Herbs for ____". It was all very strange; to be examined, watch the doctor write down which herbs/roots to use, and watch them all weighed and sorted into individual packages to be boiled and the water drank.
Also, rice water is supposedly a way to keep the bad spirits or *dirtiness* away. My mother once ran over a cat at night & came back home ONLY to whip out 3 cups of rice, wash the rice, and pour the rice water on the car...... then making rice @ 11 PM on a Thursday night.
My roommates also find this interesting!
-Ames
ooh i just thought of another asian remedy cus i just remembered how Clay was talking about the movie "shower" in class on monday... but yah, in the movie, the father owns this public bathhouse that, well of course offers baths, but also massages and a place for interacting between the townspeople. one of the remedies that they would give is for pain relief where i think they put jars over lighted candles and when the fire dies, they put it on the back of the person wherever he has muscle pains cus i guess when they do the jar sucks really hard on the spot and relieves pain... i dunno but i thought it was kinda funny cus the patient would always end up with these circular red marks all over their back... but yah "shower" is a really good movie though, really different from "quitting" even though they're from the same directors... it's funny but touching...
Yeah I definitely remember coming home and seeing some weird things boiling up in the kitchen. One time there was this soup boiling, and it seriously looked like there were twigs and leaves of various sorts in there. And it smelled like a Chinese medicine store you'd walk into in Taiwan or something. I remember thinking OH MY GOSH that smells so bad please take it out, but after drinking it, I felt so much better! Apparently it was some type of herb. My mom's uncle is a medicine man in Taiwan, and he makes these powders out of herbs. There's one for cold symptoms such as sore throats and coughs, and you're supposed to take it when you start to feel sick. It doesn't work as well if you already are sick, so basically it prevents it from happening. It tastes like CRAP and you have to just put the powder in your mouth and drink it with water. So basically it swishes around in your mouth and that nasty taste is stuck in there for awhile, but it seriously works! Crazy, it seems that a lot of times, eastern medicine works more miracles than western. I always thought of eastern medicine as preventing the sickness while western was more fixing it after it already happened.
Ctran, you're not weird, trust me, my family does the same thing. The remedy where we use a spoon or quarter with green oil to scratch ourselves until we turn red is actually a very effective technique, i'd say. There's also this remedy i know of...it involves a large pot of hot water with steam coming out of it, and herbs. Well basically, if you have a cold or a fever or whatnot, you just stick your head into the pot (but NOT into the water) filled with hot water and herbs so that the steam coming out of the pot does wonders to your body. lol. sounds weird, right? But it WORKS!