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    cgao
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    #39858
    Ruth Hickman
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    #39860
    Midori Sanchez
    Spectator

    Thank you for your second presentation, Professor Dube. I found the first half of your presentation especially interesting in your discussion of the significance of colors in Chinese culture. As an English teacher, we teach students that in literature certain colors have connotations attached to them i.e. red- passion and green- new life. However, these color interpretations are ones that are derived from European culture and are not necessarily translatable to readings by authors that are not American or European. I think it is important to let students know that while there are a majority of readings where these interpretations will be applicable, they need to pay attention to what the author's background is, the title of the piece, and the setting of the reading/writing piece before they begin to analyze. 

    I will say that some colors do not always translate from the mother or father land. Any funeral I have attended on my mother's side of the family, which is Japanese American, we always wear black instead of white. In Japan and even China associate the color white with death for funerals. 

     

    Although Mao was no longer in power, he was used on the currency. I believe that this can be connected to him symbolizing a time of a forced representation of prosperity and peace. He is like a "big brother" who is watching paternally over his people even after death. 

    #39861
    Boyan Zhang
    Spectator

    Prof. Dube mentioned a very interesting aspect of Chinese culture: color. People wear different colors in different occasions, for instance, people wear red on weddings, they wear white for funerals, and in ancient time, only kings and royal family could wear yellow, etc. I consider it especially important to incorporate Chinese culture into Chinese language teaching, so that students can make sense of what they are learning and use what they learn under appropriate context. I weave the cultural communication with my students into my daily lesson, for instance, when my students wrote their essay in red pen, I discouraged them from doing so by explaining what it means to write in red in Chinese, because in ancient China only the emperor could write in red to give comments to his subordinates’ debriefing, and it would appear rude and arrogant for ordinary people to write in red ink.

     

    #39865

    At the end of his presentation, Professor Dube posed an interesting question regarding the resurgence of Mao Zedong's image in modern day China.  He showed images of Chinese currency with the picture of Mao and statues to show the ever present "presence" of the revered leader of the Chinese Cultural Revolution.  It is not hard to see why Mao is so prevalent thorought China today even if China seemingly has shifted from the Mao era policies.  Whether Mao is viewed favorably or negatively, he is a fixed historical figure tied to the Cultural Revolution and as such, has become an integral part of the Chinese culture, history, memory and experience. Not only was he so historically prevalent but remains ingrained within the Chinese consciousness and this is hard to escape.  For some Chinese he represents a strong leader and the ideals of the Cultural Revolution and this nostalgia for the past is inescapable.  This resurgence suggests that despite China's changing economics and emerging openness, the Mao era policy is still alive in China despite the younger genation and critics distancing themselves from him and the failures and repression he represents. And with President Xi Jinping leading the revival of Mao era policies and thought, all of this points to a China that has not moved far away from Mao.  China continues to struggle to come to terms with the Mao legacy, but if the president is fostering this revival, how and when will China break away from the Mao legacy and its continual influence in modern China?

    #39868
    Carissa Sadlier
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    Last year I taught my students (I have had the same 27 students since 1st grade) how to write a haiku for our Haiku Festival (Ukiah backward) and we also visited our small, Native American museum where Tom Killion had a woodblock print exhibit of California.  This year in my 5th grade I want to take the previous learning of haiku and woodblock printmaking and connect it in with our study of the botanical world, looking at woodblock prints of Japan’s seasonal flowers. 

    SEASONAL FLOWERS 

    SPRING – LILLIES 

    SUMMER – LOTUS 

    FALL – CHRYSANTHEMUMS 

    WINTER – PLUM/CHERRY BLOSSOMS 

    #39870
    Dacia Garza
    Spectator

    The afternoon with Professor Dube further discussion about soft power- one example being names of cities all over the US including Chino Hills, Ca and Pekin, Illinois. Specifically, the Sports team was Pekin “Chinks” and the dragon was their logo. Shocking! And the fact that President Nixon didn’t want to go near this high school on his visit. Not surprising to me was that the people who spoke out about the previous name were the Chinese Americans who said it was offensive while others said they didn’t care, appalls me.

     
    #39873
    Stella Castro
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    The second part of today’s lectures was presented by Mr. Clayton Dube., titled, “Random Images”.  However the lecture started on the definition of ,”Soft Power”, several in the group had a different opinion of what the term, meant, but after discussions about the definition it seemed as if everyone was content with the meaning, (at least that is what I derived from the conclusions), Mr. Dube did point out that in several towns her in the USA, some towns have names that can be seen as taken from town/cities in Asia, for instance a town I Illinois is called .”Pekin”, and another town in Ohio as well as Baltimore are called, Canton”. These town names can be associated with the definition of “Soft Power”, as no one twisted anybody’s arm to name the towns these names. Soft power meaning, others try to copy imitate another, sometimes they even try to outdo the original owner, person, city/towns, etc.

    Mr. Dube mentioned the fact the “seasons”, which are called the “Four fathers”, in the Asian visual culture are usually portayed in the ASaian artwork/s, the definition of some colors was touched on. For instance, “White means to mourn, red means being festive and black meaning remembering a lost one. Mr. Dube also mentioned that as time goes on things change, and become less strict. But I still think one must be careful when wearing certain colors, to be certain not to offend anyone, or one’s customs.  Mr. Dube recommended a couple of good movies to watch as well as mentioning some bad movies not to watch. Finally, we were told that the Chinese/China’s number one form of art is Calligraphy.

    There are many things that I can teach my students from this part of the lecture. First of all I can teach them their colors as some of my students do not know their colors. I can teach them about feelings and emotions and the appropriateness of. I can teach them not to be bullies, as being a bully is wrong. I can teach them about the “Golden Rule”. I can teach them how to be courteous and act properly in public, such as in a movie theater, and I can also teach them safety, like when going out in and within the/their communities.

    #39878
    Carissa Sadlier
    Spectator

    I really appreciated Professor Dube’s lecture and discussion today in regards to soft power.  It is easy to understand hard power – military might/force, but soft power is another dragon altogether. Previously, though soft power is a new term, when I would think of soft power I would have the image of nobles that had the ear of the king in Tudor England. These nobles were able to influence the king to do their own bidding by influencing and persuading him.  After today's lecture I have a much deeper understanding of how soft power is being used in the world, that it doesn’t use force, but cooperation, attraction and persuasion. 

    #39880
    Zoey McKinney
    Spectator

    Professor Dube talked about the use of the dragon as visual shorthand to represent China, with the examples of the Economist covers. I thought that was interesting because you could argue for those images being universally recognizable, but you could also argue that it is lazy! I would love to do what he suggested, and have my students draw what China means to them. I expect it would result in a lot of pandas and dragons, but it would be interesting to discuss why they associate those things with China. Why are those the dominant images? Do they have any knowledge of those things other than "comes from China?" Probably not. Each year I discuss with my students the state symbols as part of our Social Studies curriculum. We talk about the state flower, bird, fish, etc. They always have an "aha" moment when they realize that we have many yellow state symbols because they are associated with gold. We also talk about the grizzly bear, and how there are actually no grizzly bears left in California. Why do we continue to use this bear as our symbol when it really has very little to do with our current society? I think we could have similar discussions about pandas and dragons in China. I also have the students draw their own California state flags each year. I discuss with them their use of symbolism, color, and slogans, much of which has been touched on in this class. It's a great way to get them to understand that designs are intentional, and that artists include many details that might get overlooked. It also helps them think more deeply about what represents our state in their eyes, other than simply settling on the grizzly bear. Some students do decide to keep the bear, but they then have the historical context of the Bear Flag Revolt to back it up. Examples and discussions of Asian art and symbols could fit so well into this unit, to give students a broader perspective.

    #39881
    Martin Castillo
    Spectator

    As always, a great presentation by Professor Dube.

    In the Maya world there are five major colors: Red for the East (the sun rises); yellow for the South (heat); black for the West (the sun sets); white for the North (coolness/rain) and green/yellow for the middle/center. There are also colors used for the medieval European coat of arms: blue for royalty; red for warrior/martyr, etc. Also, when students are making paper African masks they are to use these colors. With that said, students color and have a great time, but they also need to explain the colors and how these colors are connected to their family. With a little more research, students can design a CNY lantern and explain the meaning of these colors and perhaps flower decorations from the different seasons.

    #39883
    Aileen Level
    Spectator

    I've been particularly intrigued by images from propaganda. Since we had technical difficulties during the presentation, I looked up the rap video online and ended up finding a number of related pro-China raps. One in particular talks agressively about the South China Sea and includes the types of images of fighter pilots and aircraft carriers that came up in our discussion of soft power today. I found myself thinking about American equivalents and wonder if someone like Toby Keith (and other aspects of country music) might be our closest equivalents.   

    Maybe some of these videos could be useful in connecting China's ancient/medieval history to today & also in answering the "why does this stuff matter?" question.

    Take a look at this video and read the lyrics -- I'm also wondering about the very prominent Starbucks.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JafU17uMMIg

    Video info: 

    天府事变 --《南海,南海》CD REV South China Sea

    #39884
    Gerlinde Goschi
    Spectator

    The afternoon session was great today.  Dr. Dube raised many good questions and presented great facts.  He finished the session by asking the class: "What's going on?"  I have asked myself the same question this week.  Why has Mao reappeared on the currency, on posters, etc. after he was "buried" and steered away from?  Why is the current leader, Xi Jinping, grooming himself to look Mao-like in photos?  Xi Jinping's government imposes censorship, prohibiting websites, shows, movies from the public.  Yet, there seems to be a state of contentment among the general population.  This intrigues me.  

    A quote from Xi Jinping during today's presentation stuck with me.  It basically stated that China acknowledges its past and it is okay with it.  China is proud of China and honors its past leaders and what they stood for.  People have a strong nationalistic attitude, they like their leader who looks out for them.  During Mao's time many starved, but they did it for the good of the republic.  What Xi Jinping does today is for the good of the republic and the good of the people. The economy is booming and China is a major world player. This is tremendous progress from the 1950-60's. Nationalism is back in China and the Chinese are embracing it.

    #39885
    Gerlinde Goschi
    Spectator

    I will incorporate the meaning of the different colors Dr. Dube described today in a fun class activity.  I am thinking about making it into a game:  Guess what red means in China? What does white/blue mean? and so on. This would be a fun way for my students to learn about China in general and its traditions.  When would you wear red?  Or something like:  I am 25 years old.  I am going to visit my grandmother. Should I wear red? Why?  I also found out that a certain hue of yellow was exclusively worn by the emperor.  No one else was allowed to wear it.  This is also a good game question.  I would introduce this into lessons with a small history background on China, showing pictures of the garments the leaders of the time wore. 

    #39890
    Shad Springer
    Spectator

    Professor Dube's slides featuring the Economist magazine covers with dragons on them got me thinking a lot about Western perceptions of China. My students need to write narrative, informative, and argument texts. I usually teach argument writing in the spring, and one of their final tasks is to write a five-paragraph persuasive essay. I provide them a long list of options with clear pro/con positions. However, very few (if any) of these involve China. Since I also usually teach ancient China in social studies in the spring, I like the idea of frontloading some information about modern China with them (military, economics, soft power, involvement in the developing world, etc.) and then including some pro/con China prompts that could lead to good student argumentative essays. Some of the questions could include: Should all U.S. students be required to learn Chinese in school? Is China helping or hurting the U.S. economy? Should the U.S. government and consumers do more to demand that the Chinese workers who make the products we consume here are given a liveable wage and work in humane conditions? Etc. 

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