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  • #6913
    clay dube
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    Hi Folks,
    Lecture #5 is entitled "expanding choices" and focuses on the greater freedom Chinese began to enjoy after 1978 to make decisions for themselves. Jobs continued to be assigned when you graduated from high school and college until the early 1990s, but you could opt out and open a business of your own. You could begin to move and to live whereever you could find work. If you could afford it, you could buy your own apartment. Before the 1990s, urbanites had to get housing from their work units (their danwei 单位, their employer). You also had greater choice in health care, though as with other choices, the market began to determine access. If you couldn't afford the care you needed, you couldn't get it.

    Please watch the lecture, stopping it to take notes or to jot down questions. Please post your responses below and let me know if you have any questions. We'll discuss your comments and questions on Tuesday, 10/23 at 5 pm PDT. (And here's a question for you -- what time is it in western China, for example in Kashgar, when it is 9 am in Beijing?)
     

    #40389
    Jennifer Place
    Spectator

    Hi Professor Dube!

    I am probably looking right at it but I can't locate Lecture #5! 

    Jen

     

    #40390
    clay dube
    Spectator

    Hi Jen - We ran into a software glitch (no audio on the lecture) and will have a new version up later this afternoon. My apologies to you and all.

    #40391
    clay dube
    Spectator

    Assigned readings:
    (Skim) Lu and Xia, "Migration in the People's Republic of China," Asian Development Bank, 2016.
    (Skim) Lu and Ye, "'Children of Great Development': Difficulties in the Education and Development of Rural Left Behind Children," Chinese Education and Society, V41N5 (2017).
    Johnson, "In China, 'Once the villages are gone, the culture is gone,'" New York Times, Feb. 2, 2014.
    Anderlini, "Christianity's rise in China," Financial Times, Nov. 8, 2014.
    Various, news coverage of the rise and problems of internet bars.
    Various, news coverage of the rise of dancing in China's public squares.

    Video:
    Woetzel, 2016, How to Change a Billion People (20 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEz5oI9YDAY
    PBS/GlobalPost - Urban Migration for Young Chinese (5 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43uRiEp6k_U
    FT-2013 (6 minutes) China's urban billion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SExDPEi8ogM
    CNN- 2013, Lunar New Year Migration (3 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnJws_qdCnw
    FT - Rise of Christianity (3 minute video to accompany the series launched by Anderlini's article, above) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43uRiEp6k_U
    One of these two:
    David Aikman, 2010, author of Jesus in Beijing, speaks at USC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43uRiEp6k_U
    Fenggang Yang, 2018, on the Rise of Christianity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43uRiEp6k_U

    Optional video: NHK on rural migrants in China's cities, 2017 (85 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ByiCZhKOO4

    Questions to consider
    Why did hundreds of millions of Chinese leave their rural homes for the cities? What problems were they trying to solve? What new problems did they encounter? What of the children who are left behind?

    Why did people gravitate to the internet and internet bars?

    What has led to the rise of religious beliefs in China? What has been the attitude of the Chinese state?

    Optional readings:

    Fan and Li, "Marriage and Migration in Transitional China: a field study of Gaozhou, western Guangdong," Environment and Planning, 2002, v. 34.
    Seetoo and Zou, "China's Square Dancing," 2016

    Please post your thoughts on these readings and videos and on the lectures.

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    #40408
    Nira Sun
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    The YouTube video for "Urban Migration of Young People" is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1suPxXTrpmw

    Why did hundreds of millions of Chinese leave their rural homes for the cities?

    Just like the YouTube comments under the "Lunar New Year Migration", the journalist, Michael Chance, didn't get the translation correctly on his second interview. The second guy mentioned that he got paid better which means family can have a better life if he works in Beijing. All these people who migrate to bigger cities because they are looking for better work opportunities. Can they support the family by doing farm works? Yes they can. However, younger generation tend to move to bigger cities to learn skills that they cannot learn in country side. Ahong in the video of "Urban Migration of Young People" is a perfect representative of such migration trend. He went from an assistant to a stylist in a salon in quite a few years. Who would need a hair stylist in his rural hometown? If he stayed there, he would never have the chance to master the skill nor have the opportunity to practice his skill. This is the opportunity that young people are striving for in big cities. With the money he made as a hair stylist, he was able to afford an apartment and a car. Imgaine how much the quality of life can be improved at his rural hometown. Again, he will never enjoy any of these if he stays at his hometown.

    What problems were they trying to solve?

    Migrating to bigger cities doesn't necessarily mean having a better life. There are differenty types of struggles that they are facing each day. Migrants who do not master certain skills continue doing "lower-class" work which are longer hours and lower pay. Due to the Hukou system, migrants are not considered as residents of the big cities which leads to social security issues. When they are sick, they cannot receive the same quality of service in the hospital. When they (especially males) want to get married, no girls would consider them because they are unable to provide a "financially stable" life in the city.

    What new problems did they encounter? What of the children who are left behind?

    Except those who couldn't walk or work, most people migrate to big cities to look for work. According to the founder of the "Freiends of Migrant Workers", urbanization of bigger cities broaden the gap between the poor and rich. The actual issue was never solved in rural areas. Even though migrants move to big cities, they are not entitled to health care or free edcation in big cities either due to the Hukou restriction. There was no compensation given to the workers who help with urbanization but also have families back in the rural areas.

    For children who left behind, they are usually taken care of by the grandparents generation. Children's education is a dilemma to migrants parents. If children stay in the rural area, they are unable to receive high quality of education due to lack of teachers and facilities in the area. If children go to cities with their parents, they cannot be admitted to schools either due to no city residency.

    A famous film directed by Zhang Yimou back in the 1990s explicitly exposed the poverty and education issue of children who are left behind. The film is called "Not One Less" (Yi Ge Dou Bu Neng Shao). I couldn't find a full movie on YouTube but there are quite a few clips you may want to watch to learn more of the left-behind children issue.

     

    #40416
    Marcos Rico
    Spectator

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/22/from-denial-to-pride-how-china-changed-its-language-on-xinjiangs-camps

    In the past couple of months China has denied the existance of interment camps on the Xinjiang territory. Where it is estimated that about a million of Uighurs, Kazakhs and Muslims are being detained indefinitely and forced to take reeducation classes at detention centers. Finally in the past couple of days Chinese officials have talked about this centers, refering to them as Free Vocational Centers. China’s state broadcaster even aired a 15 minute segment where they showed reporters visitong the centers.

    Here is the link to the video, but I do not understand Chinese.

    http://tv.cctv.com/v/v1/VIDEVvr9aq34SsDMrB6IRGnh181016.html

    In one part it shows “Students” in a “classroom” with about 5 surveillance cameras.

    #40417
    Marcos Rico
    Spectator

    https://www.haaretz.com/.premium-how-close-to-china-is-too-close-for-israel-1.6576714

    The article wonders about the consequences that this visit might have on the relations between Israel and it’s number one trading partner, the USA. China is Israel’s second largest trading partner. China will be building and operation two new ports in Israel. This has already created conflict with the USA, the U.S. Sixth Fleet might considere no longer using those ports. 

    In the past the USA has forced Israel to cancel deals to sell weapons to China. The article wonders if Natanyahu is getting too friendly with the Chinese governement, and endangering Israel”s relationship with the USA.

     

    #40418
    Marcos Rico
    Spectator

    Opening ceremony will be October 24th, 2018. It took nine year to complete and the cost wss about 20 billion dollars. It is a 34 mile long bridge.

    Odd thing is most owners of private vehicles in Honk Kong, will not be allowed to use their vehicles to go across the bridge. The arcticle says that they will have to park their vehicle on the Honk Kong side and rent a car once they get through customs. It does not mention if mainland Chinese will have to do the same. Could this be a measure to prevent smuggling of goods into China?

    According to the article people from Honk Kong are not happy with the bridge,it is seen as a tool of the Chinese to increase their grip on Honk Kong.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/21/world/hong-kong-zhuhai-macau-bridge-intl/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_content=2018-10-22T04%3A38%3A17&utm_medium=social&utm_source=fbCNN

    #40420
    Stephen Secules
    Spectator

    The "why" of migration to urban centers seems obvious and eerily recognizable; these people are moving toward opportunity and the possiblities of improving their own well-being, much like the immigrants who come to the US seeking better opportunity. I am unsure if Chinese migrants engage in the same activity of US immigrants in that they send money home. What's more interesting to me is the intersection of some of your questions, Prof. Dube, regarding the reasons why migrants leave, the problems they solve and create, rthe children, and the rise of interest in faith.

    Chinese migrants appear to move toward opportunity, which is what the Party wants in order to engender economic growth and tap into an almost limitless labor force in the form of rural migrant labor. These migrants, responding to demand for labor and demand for greater skills (shown in the Lu and Xia, 2013 labor statistics graphs regarding levels of education), have found the economic opportunities they seek and gain better living conditions and more disposable income. The problem is the people they leave behind; the children get profiled but the larger numbers, according to the tables from Lu and Ye (2017), belong to the women and elderly. Nonetheless, these people become even more marginalized by the separated family and disproportion in opportunity within the family; the greater prosperity of the migrant father and/or father and mother does not seem to trickle down to the rural leftovers. As a result, the broken family struggles and problems ensue; such as education issues for the children and lack of moral cohesion within the fmaily unit. Lu and Ye (2017) claim that this migration is responsible for the breakdown of family values, morals governing proper behavior and respect among each other. This is leading to a greater incidence, in particular, of teen pregnancy and abortion, and even marriage between minors for lack of other generatonal guidance. Faiths like Christianity and Falun Gong, bring with them definitive moral positions on behavior and their rising popularity may indicate a need by the people for more strict moral guidance. It is possible that the Chinese people, espeically the rural population, while wanting to stay true to their government's values overall, are lacking in spiritual and moral guidance to the extent that they are turning to faith-based options to help self-govern, in the spirit of Xiaobing, their spiritual and moral needs. 

    #40421
    Stephen Secules
    Spectator

    I was surprised to see the photo of the group of protesters flipping off the government building in Dalian over the proposed chemical plant. I didn't know it ewas so widespread. Chinese contmeporary artist and expatriot Ai Weiwei enjoys the same thing. Here is a link to an article discussing his series A Study in Perspective where he raises his middle finger to a number of important locations. https://publicdelivery.org/ai-weiwei-study-of-perspective/ 

    I would be interested to know if his Twitter feed, which is full of these images, had any influence on people's actions in Dalian in 2011.

    #40425
    Marcos Rico
    Spectator

    The people of China has gone through a lot of changes in a relatively short amount of time. It has changed from having a small percentage of their people living in an urban area about 20% (early 1980’s) to currently having about 60% of its people living in urban areas. In comparison, according to some statistics that I found on http://www.census.gov, in 2015 about about 63% of people in the U.S.A. lived in urban areas. Back in the early 1900’s the USA already had a 39.6% Urban Population and 60.4% rural. 

    China has experience a big shift from rural to urban. Originally the governement was very restrictive of their citizens movility within the country. Finally at the end of the 1970’s, the governement eased on the restrictions. People moved from small villages to the city in search of better economic opportunities, they have achieved economic success at the expense of social isolation and loneliness.

    One way that urban citizens try to combat isolation in by the use of their highly monitored internet. Cell phones are a great choice for those who can afford them. Migrant workers with a tight budget use internet bars, where they can do video chats, play games or even watch movies.

    U.S.A. Movies and video games are very popular in China, they are modified to meet Chinese government requirements for the Chinese market.

    Now there are many colors and styles of clothing to choose from. Not only that, but the government now allows them to engage in social dancing. They can also choos among several USA restaurants such as KFC, McDonalds, Starbucks and even P.F. Chang’s.

    Chinese citizens enjoy some religious freedoms, as long as it pre approved by the government of course. Catholic, and Protestan churches are allowed as long as they do not get in trouble with the local authorities. More local religions such as Buddhism, and  Falun Gong are presecuted by the governement. 

    Currently Chinese citizens enjoy more freedoms than ever before since the Communist revolution, but these freedoms are highly restricted by their government.

    #40427
    Natali Ramon
    Spectator

    Jonathan Woetzel’s video on how to change a billion people brought up a lot of new points for me to consider about urbanization.  Based on China’s development, it seems that urbanization has been crucial to China’s economic development.  Woetzel showed a number of graphics depicting how migration to urban centers has helped to increase China’s productivity and GDP. As I saw all these graphics, I was reminded about the issues or relocation that China faces as caused by Hukou.  Based on the evidence posted, it seems that migrants have been critical to the economic development of urban cities in China. It is a bit baffling to me that just as the US, China has a hard time allowing immigrants to integrate in mainstream society. Additionally, another thought that occurred to me as professor Woetzel reviewed the maps of the world economy throughout history is the role of colonization.  As professor Woetzel went from showing the map of the year 1500 to the map of the 1938, he noted that part of the reason why the western world lit up as China and India dimmed was due to the industrial revolution.  However, I was curious to know how colonization and economic sacking played a role in growing the economies of the US and the European countries as the economies of China and India went dim.    

     

    #40428
    Natali Ramon
    Spectator

    Nira,

    I agree with you that migrating to bigger cities does not necessarily equate to a better life.  And surely, it seems that in China, just like in the US, most migrants get stuck with the "lower class" menial jobs nobody wants to do.  Regardless, I feel that these menial jobs are essential to the functionality of a city, so despite the fact that migrants don't always have a better life in urban cities, their work is essential to the sucess of a city. In Los Angeles, there is a popular saying/wonder about what life would be "without a Mexican", and it is likely that the city would shut down because the contributions of immigrants are essential to the survival of Los Angeles.  In a similar way, I wonder what life would be like in  a city like Beijing if rural immigrants were to banish.  Certainly there would be less crowding, but to what lenght would the functionality of these great cities be affected?  Jonathan Woetzel offers a lot of compelling evidence that "migrants are the future of productive societies." At the same time, I ackonledge my positionality as a Mexican-American and of course my thoughts on immigrants are colored by my personal experiences.  You probably know a whole lot more on how rural immigrants play into the social fabric of China's big urban centers. 

    #40429
    Lin ZhaoDavison
    Spectator

            The conflicts between Tibetans and non-Tibetans have never ceased.  While the Chinese government blamed Dalai Lama for the tension, the world regarded him as a peace-maker.  Dalai Lama was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize in 1989.  He has travelled around the world to promote peace on earth. He visited USC in 2011 and gave a speech, discussing secular ethics, human values and society.  The video can be accessed at https://dalailama.usc.edu/.

            In his speech he expressed that "Happiness – the basic human goal – depends upon good ethical conduct, regardless of one’s religious beliefs."  Dalai Lama said,  “An open heart helps us become aware of our potential. An open heart knows no fear, has no jealousy or hatred. "  In his view, to pursue individual and family happiness, one needs to do good deeds and has an open heart, embracing others, and there is no room for hatred.  He also discussed levels of human compassions and consent. He tells that one can exercise compassion for enemies.   His preach of happiness and human compassion is very important for people with dissenting views in a divided. We do need to open our hearts to tolerate others to achieve hamony in our society and peace in the world.  

     

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    #40431
    Lin ZhaoDavison
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    Since China adopted "open-door" policy led by Deng Xiaoping after the Cultural Revolution, more and more foreign enterprises entered into the Chinese marketplaces.  Among them are Kodak, McDonal, KFC and Starbucks, to name a few.  I think international businesses and trades are beneficial to both China and America and their people.  Many businesses like Ford and McDonal often sell more in China than in the U.S.  This reflects demands of American goods in China that either improve or supplement Chinese people's lives.  Conversely, a trade war is detrimental to both countries and their poeple as well as to the world.  Fox Business identified 10 most vunlerable American companies that have the most market shares in China.  I wish the world leaders would listen to Dalai Lama's talks about creating and mainting harmony in society and peace in the world.

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