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  • #8355
    stubing
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    Professor Jennifer Jung-Kim teaches courses on Korean history in the Department of Asian Languages and Cultures at UCLA.

    Register for the discussion session on Zoom here: https://usc.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJ0sc-2hrDMtHNEydtc1kCpsUoUCnat3nJUJ

    Video #1: Korea to 1392

     

     

    Video #2: Korea from 1392-1800

     

     

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    Please read the Hurst plus either of the Yi or KIm. There is also a resource sheet FYI. 

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    #45606
    Taylor Bub
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    I really enjoyed the myht of Tan'gun from the first video.  It made me think about how so many cultures (Christianity in particular, as well as Greek myths) focus on man being created first and woman being created from man or to punish man.  It was interesting to see a culture where a woman was created first, and that man was created for her because she was lonely.  I think it would be something cool for students in history or mythology classes to explore human creation myths and compare them to each other.  Students can then discuss societal values of the time, based off of what was shown to be valued in the myths.

    #45607
    Taylor Bub
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    The reading about Ho Nansorhon was so interesting.  I think the comparison between Ho Nansorhon and a make-believe sister of Shakespeare really brought the struggles of Ho Nansorhon into perspective.  It was lucky for Ho Nansorhon to have been born into a priviledges family with a brother who supported her interest and talent for poetry.  Reading this made me wonder about why so many societies all over the world seem to devalue women and prevent them from being educated.  It seems clear from the records we do have, thinking about the poetry that Ho Nansorhon wrote, and the Monarchs as members of the Hallowed Bones in Korea's society it is clear that women were capable of all the things men are, so why are they consistently painted as unable and placed in roles where they are not allowed to be educated? 

    #45609
    Tara Corral
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    I was thinking the same thing about the myth of creation and the similarities between this version and the myths of Anciet Greek Mythology. I recently read a Fictional story based on Greek mythology about a couple being transformed into lions to forever wander the earth for angering Zeus and Athena. Its interesting to see how some cultures continue to have similar concepts despite not having contact or really knowing about that specific tale. I think it would be interesting to ask students to compare ultiple creation myths I think they would come up with some interesting thoughts and opinions about each religion.

    #45610
    Tara Corral
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    Its interesting to see the many varieties of Confucianism that emerged during the Choson Period. I am had a couple thoughts that connected to our first video about the Bone Ranking System and now the Hereditary Social Status in Choson. It seems like the two systems are related if not built upon the previous and helped create more separated class system. Especially with Neo-Confucianism's response to Seconday Sons being treated almost as inequals and Low Borns. Did the feeling towards secondary sons born of Concubines emerge from Neo-Confucianism's focus on hereditary or was that a feeling that developed because of a women's importance in Choson Socitey. I'm curious to know how common a concubine was as Confucianism developed and evolved to fit the changing Korean Lifestyle. 

    #45611
    Tara Corral
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    I was really interested in looking more at Sin Saimdang because I had taken a Korean Art Course in my final year of getting my Bachelors, the thing is I do not remember once learning about her and her work. Especially because she is so important and her work is one the currency in Korea. But I was intrigued by her life story and her ability to be so well educated. I wonder if that created problems for her in life as a painter and being a well educated female. Or did it balance out becuase she ended up being a good wife and mother to her children. I forget which country we reviewed but the continuation of not taking a name unless its the husbands name is interesting for women as in the article I believe it mentioned she didnt have her name written so we don't know what it was previou to marriage. 

    #45612
    Sean Lobberecht
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    As an ancient civilizations teacher I am really enjoying learning about these founding myth's from east Asia. I think I find these myth's so interesting due to the fact that we can really glean many insights into the culture based on these myths. As someone said earlier, I found it interesting as well that the creation myth says that a woman was created first and essentially god did not want her to be lonely so he trned himself into a man and together they created the founder of Korea. As a first year teacher I have been doing my best to learn about and teach the history of the cultures and states that are in the Massachusetts curriculum. As I have progressed along this journey I have learned a lot about the creation myth's but have not really implemented them into my teaching. Going forward I think I am going to start every unit with a dive into the creation myths of these cultures. I feel we can learn a lot from the creation myths of civilizations, they can teach what a civilization valued and a lot of times can even give us insight into social structures. I feel starting each section with a dive into the myth of a civilizations creation will help students better understand the civilizations and cultures we study. I also think an in depth comparison of different civilizations creation myths could be a fruitful exercise for students. Comparing and contrasting these founding myths can show us the linkages between societies and could lead to some exceelent classroom debates about dominate cultures in particular regions.

    #45613
    Sean Lobberecht
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    I have talked previously about how it is awkward to teach in a chronology of one civilization then rewind a few thousand years and teach another civilization from start to finish. I feel taching East Asia and other geographic centers in unison could be fruitful for students. I found the Mongol takeover of Korea and their connection to the silk roads as excellent connecting points that could make teaching the different civilizations concurrently a real possibility. 

    I feel connecting the civilizations of China, Korea, and Japan through the lens of Mongol invasion could be a fascinating exercise for students. Although the Mongols are not a part of my curriculum I believe tracing their expansion and comparing how these civilizations resisted, coalesced, or were dominated by the Mongols would be an excellent activity for students. I feel diving into the response to the Mongols could help students glean a lot about the civilizations of East Asia. It appears that China was dominated, Korea coalesced and Japan was able to fend off the Mongol invasions. Diving deep into the factors that led to these outcomes could lead to excellent discussions and debates in the classroom. Understanding the factors that led to either Mongol takeover or Mongol defeat in Japan's case could be very beneficial for students to build understanding of the region of East Asia. 

    Korea's role in the Silk Roads is another entry point in which the civilizations of east Asia can be connected. I feel often times students have very little understanding of how connected the world was even in ancient times. Showing students that even Japan and Korea were just one of many parts of the silk roads could show them the interconnectedness of the ancient world. Teaching China, Korea, and Japan concurrently would also benefit from the teaching of the spread of Buddhism along the silk roads. It seems this course has given me many entry points on how to teach these civilizations concurrently and show how connected the ancient world really was.

    #45614
    Sean Lobberecht
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    I found the talk of Siberian migration to Korea very fascinating especially when you couple that with talk Mr. Ptelka gave about how the people's located around the Sea of Japan or East Sea were constantly moving. The sculptures shown in one of professor Ptelka's lectures of the figure with ancient sunglasses seems to show that the people of Japan and korea might have similar ancestors. I find this interesting especially if you consider the debate and proudness each country has for their origins, all believing that they were first. great migrations of people is a topic I spend little time covering but I think a better discussion of these migrations could go a long way in making the ancient world seem more connected for students. I have talked a lot in these posts about trying to teach civilizations in a more concurrent fashion instead of just one civilization from start to finish and then moving on to the next civilization. I feel starting Units by diving into the migration of people could be an excellent way of teaching these civilzation in a concurrent fashion. This could also be very beneficial in understanding how shared ancestors can create common bonds between civilizations and then looking at how geography creates differences amongst the different settled groups of people who migrated from similar regions.

    #45615
    Sean Lobberecht
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    One of the things I have really enjoyed learning about east Asia, either through my own research or through this course, is my own personal discovery of how many things were invented in Asia before they were in Europe. As a student of history it seems I have been bombarded with the idea that Europe was far more advanced than societies elsewhere. One major example of this is the printing press. In the western cannopn it seems that the invention of the printing press is a watershed moment for Europe as it led to the increase in available information allowing for Europeans to advance rapidly. you would imagine my surprise then when I found out that the printing press was actually invented in Asia first. This is not the first and I am sure not the last time I will figure out that something was actually invented prior to European discovery. I feel it is extremely important to bring this information to student's attention. I think we do a dissevice to students by teaching history through a western lens and it is the responsibility of world history teachers to fight back against this narrative. The idea of Europeans being the trend setters of history I feel is at the root cause of racism. It seems to me that people get this idea that Europe was civilized and it was them that brought civilization to the rest of the world which I am sure you all realize is not the case. The printing press is just one of many examples we can use as teachers to fight back against the western dominated narrative of history.

    #45617
    Sean Lobberecht
    Spectator

    As a teacher of history I try to give voice to marginalized groups as much as possible and being an ancient civilizations teacher there our few opportunities to show women in prominent roles or incidents where they are treated vetter than property. I have been really intrigued learning about Korea this week because it seems like there is a plethora of opportunities to show young girls instances of women history in which they can take pride in. The creation mythj starts things off as Korea's creation myth talks about how a women was created first. I am no expert on creation myth but this seems to be a rareity and should be celebrated. Another instance I think should be brought to the attention of students is the female monarchs of Ancient Korea, specifically Queen Seondeok, based on the lecture she seems to have been not only important because she was queen but also did an excellent job in this position. I was also delighted to hear about women's role during theChosen period. It seems to me that they were not viewed in the same light as men but were given vastly more rights than women elsewhere around the globe during this time, especially in Europe. I think it is important to bring information like this to student's attention. Sharing monments like this with students can give young girls images of someone like themselves not treated as property. Also by making this information available to young girls it allows for an excellent opportunity to give young girls an entry point to fall in love with history because they can see themselves in it.

    #45618
    Sean Lobberecht
    Spectator

    I found the conversation of Christianity in Korea very intriguing and did not realize how much inroads were actually made by Christian missionaries at such an early age. I think an interesting activity for students would be to compare and contrast how Christian missionaries conducted themselves in say Africa compared to Asia. It was interesting to see how Christianity was presented to Koreans as "Western learning" because the missionaries understood that the Koreans were interested in scholarship. This seems vastly different than how missionaries introduced Christianity in Africa. The back and forth between allowing Koreans to be Christian but still participate in Confucian ceremonies was very intriguing to me as well. The mixing or morphing of religion in order for it to succeed in different regions always interests me. A comparison I can draw is how Islam was morphed in Africa to make it more digestable by allowing women to have more rights that were traditional in Africa. It would be interesing to compare and contrast the religious timelines in Korea v. Japan because Japan practically cut themselves off from the western world to keep Christian missionaries out. What benifits did Christianity bring to Korea? What negatives did Christianity bring to Korea. I feel this would be a fruitful debate for students to partake in.

    #45635
    Miguel Diaz
    Spectator

    The first thing I thought about when I saw the Korean tabletop dolmen was Aslan in “The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.” Immediately after that, I thought about Stonehenge. 

    Professor Jung-Kim mentioned in her presentation that the dolman are not unique to Korea, and that they are found in other countries or regions of the world such as Ireland, the Netherlands, and Spain.

    The dolmen would be an interesting topic of discussion for my students. I would ask them to research and compare two or three distinct countries where dolmen we’re built. I would ask them to find answers to some of the following questions: Who built them? Approximately when were they built? Why were they built? What were they used for? What were the shamanistic or religious practices of the people who built them?

    A comparative world study of shamanism would also be interesting. How does shamanism compare around the world during the relative development of various civilizations?

     

     

    #45636
    Miguel Diaz
    Spectator

    Three kingdoms and two Koreas

    I spent one month working at a winter camp for middle school students at Korea University in South Korea many years ago. The students and teachers stayed in dormitories on campus. We ate at one of the university’s cafeterias, and we used the universities classrooms.

    I had been living in Shanghai, China for many years by the time I visited South Korea, so the change from a bone chilling Shanghai winter, to a snowy but seemingly warmer South Korea was a welcome and much needed change. I traveled from the airport to the university, first by bus, and then by train. The neon Christian crosses that dotted the Korean landscape were a surprise. I hadn’t seen so many Christian crosses and churches since I spent some time living in Akron, Ohio years before.  

    The young Korean college students who served as our teachers’ aides were polite and deeply proud of their university and their country. I don’t recall having any conversations with them of a political nature. We mainly talked about entertainment and food.

    Many years later, I took a trip to North Korea. It was in North Korea that I first saw a map of the Three Kingdoms. The map was shown and explained to our tour group at a museum. It was interesting to learn that Korea had three powerful kingdoms. 

    I would like to know if (and how) the Three Kingdoms were ever unified. And if so, did the unfied Korean people see themselves as one (in ancient times) or did members of each respective kingdom see each other as culturally different?

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