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Video #1: Geography and Demography Basics
Geography/Environment readings:
1. Hiroku Tabuchi, "Japan Races to Build New Coal-Burning Power Plants, Despite the Climate Risks," New York Times, Feb. 3, 2020 (below).
2. Justin McCurry, "South Korea to shut a quarter of its coal-fired plants over winter to cut pollution," The Guardian, Dec. 2, 2019; Jean Chemnick, "With Widespread Deforestation, North Korea Faces an Environmental Crisis," Scientific American, April 19, 2019 (below).
3. Tom Levitt, "Ma Jun: China has reached a tipping point," The Guardian, May 19, 2015 (below).
Video #2: "China" Before the Qin Dynasty
Population readings/video:
1. Watch: Channel News Asia, "The Village with Dolls but No Children," Aug. 17, 2019.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/cnainsider/village-dolls-nagoro-japan-ageing-declining-population-11816372
2. Read: Michael Robinson, "Schools in South Korea: Where have all the children gone?" 2018.
https://focusongeography.org/publications/photoessays/southkorea/index.html
3. Read/Watch: Clifford Coonan, "Global population decline will hit China hard," Deutsch Welle, Sept. 9, 2019.
https://www.dw.com/en/global-population-decline-will-hit-china-hard/a-50326522
such a beautifui chinese lesson,we can learn more about chinese ancient history ,especially the interesting daily tools the peopeo made.
we can also know the king's power represent their family's power,some fabulous culture relics are also impressive.
For our second discussion session (Monday, April 4, 4 pm Pacific), we'll look at Chinese philosophy and the early Chinese empire. As part of our discussion session, we'll have a debate where four schools of early Chinese thought will contend. Each participant will be a member of a school and will need to prepare for the debate.
The materials and questions for the debate are in the session 2 thread. Will you be with the Confucian, Mohist, Daoist or Legalist school? We'll sign everyone up during today's discussion session.
Session 2 videos and readings: https://china.usc.edu/k12/forums/usc-spring-2022-east-asia-origins-1800/session-2-44-early-china-chinese-philosophy
I have often taught about Japan's declining population as an example in my class. After our discussion this evening about changing perspectives especially of our American students, I thought more about the aging population. I was surprised about China facing a declining population. I think that is something that we don’t often consider given China’s LARGE population especially with their relatively recent limits on family size. I plan to incorporate this discussion in my Modern World History class in our final unit which is the contemporary world, when we discuss the future changes in the world. When the world population is larger than it has EVER been, why is it a bad thing for the population to decline, in specific states and globally?
Living in Southern California, I noticed a lot of parallels between the importance and struggles of water conservation, over usage, and pollution in our waterways similar to what China is facing. Both China and California are large industries of textiles and agriculture. Los Angeles’s water is supplied by The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, and they pull water from the The Colorado River and they have been draining the California Valley groundwater. This is very detrimental to our state, as it is causing ecosystems to collapse and we are quickly running out of water. Additionally, this is destroying communities of people and continues to affect our Native population of the Paiute Indians.
Molly raises a great question. With the strain on resources imposed by ever-increasing numbers of people who need food, water, clothing, shelter and space, perhaps slowing growth is the best news ever. The challenge, of course, is to find ways to meet the needs of an aging population, which likely has rising expectations for living standards and more. Getting the balance between producers and dependents just right is a challenge - for families and for societies. The magic weapon: increasing productivity while decreasing the number of workers needed and the resources consumed.
For the pre-modern period examined in this seminar, there are gains through applying more hands to the tasks and sometimes applying new techniques/materials to it. Trade facilitates some specialization which sometimes increases productivity. But even in the pre-modern period societies seem to hit limits to the carrying capacity of their land and other resources. One of the most interesting periods in Japan is the period from 1630 or so to 1800. Stay tuned for that discussion, but for now it does seem that Japanese families limited the size of their families in ways that ultimately led to greater sustainability and living standards.
Most of the time in the pre-modern era, population decline means something has gone badly wrong (devastation due to natural disasters, war, disease, crop failure are some of the possible factors). In the modern era, population decline also usually suggests a failure of one sort or another (war, disease, lowered life expectancy). Low population growth as we see in East Asia is generally because of increasing urbanization, higher education levels (especially for women), delayed marriage and reproductive choices. People in East Asia are living longer and better than ever. But planners worry that fewer working hands might end this positive trend. Finding routes to higher productivity, embracing lower resource demands or living standards are some solutions, some more acceptable than others.
Jennifer's right to remind us of the importance of rivers. Many who teach about early civilizations are already doing a lot about this. We can talk about technologies developed by early peoples, about the role of organizations at various levels in managing access to rivers. (Trade guilds, water management regimes - canals, etc.)
Some have argued that the need to manage the flow of water led some Asian societies to develop distinct governmental and social systems (hydraulic societies), though most scholars think that oversimplifies the situations. (I agree with the critics, but Wittfogel and his followers raise some interesting points.) See: https://www.britannica.com/topic/hydraulic-civilization and Wittfogel's own summary: http://www.columbia.edu/itc/anthropology/v3922/pdfs/wittfogel.pdf It is certainly true that in Japan, managing irrigation systems led to great rural cooperation. In China's Jiangnan 江南 region, however, there is a lot of irrigation cooperation, but not much beyond that.
In watching the presentations and reading through the articles, the themes of interconnectivity between China, Korea, and Japan- both historically and currently- are very apparent. Being able to look with students at current issues, then walking them back through history might help them contextualize modern issues and how they are connected to geography and history. Many are completely unaware of the basic geography of East Asia, so this will help.
Also, the final questions of the first presentation, the focus on an aging population and how that may shift societial norms, is interesting in the context of decreasing life spans in the U.S. Anytime we can draw those comaparisons, it makes for interesting classroom discussion.
Found another article on the doll village: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/world/asia/japan-dolls-shrinking-population-nagoro.html
I think students would find this story fascinating. Apparently this is becoming a tourist destination and bringing some life to the local economy? I also wonder the pandemic has possibly changed attitudes about urban vs. rural life?
Jennifer's made a great point about the links between the peoples of East Asia. There was a great flow and fluidity and we have had borders and assertions of distinctiveness for so long that we sometimes think that they must have always existed. The world as it now exists has boundaries that are sometimes contested, but organizations (e.g., UN) and events (e.g., Olympics) are controlled by and reaffirm the importance of nations, flags and belonging. In building "us", "we" often make a point of distinguishing ourselves from "they" and "them." This identity-business seems quite a part of our nature, a survival instinct we developed and remain attached to.
When the exchanges of long, long ago (thousands to hundreds of years ago) happened, there was no doubt an awareness of difference, but also an appreciation of similarity (even if the similarity was merely a love of particular goods or profit). What Jennifer gets at, though, is that all important fact that exchange and mixing that was and is there between peoples and teaching about it is essential.
I enjoy your lectures. And I really like one of the questions in the second video.
Why people need those myths?
I think people have been trying to explore where they came from and how the world is making sense to them. Actually, I am from THE place where Yu managed the flood. When I was a kid, I knew the The Great Flood of Gun-Yu, and Yu was so busy that he didn't have a chance to stop by his house. Ironically, he passed by his house three times.
Initially, I thought it was to explain why we have floods in the Changjiang in the summer. As I grow older, I re-think the myth are deliverying traditional values of how to serve people if you are administrators. In China, officials need to have a big heart to serve people. In return, people respect and admire you.
I am a Chinese tutor, because the curriculum is designed to guide students to enhance their language communication skills. After watching your lectures, I thought that when students' Chinese proficiency reaches a certain level, I can design courses based on the knowledge of geography and population. The integration of language learning and historical and cultural learning should be a good course.
Watching this video on East Asia had me thinking about how to connect some of this content with the 3rd grade standards. In social studies, students learn about how geography shapes different places in California. We learn about the desert, coast, mountain, and valley regions and how the different geographical features impact the places and the people who inhabit those places. It might be interesting when situating our inquiring into California geography to compare the size of California to the US, and the size of the US to the size of other countries in East Asia. I can also see some math connections here -- when we study place value and work on comparing numbers, I could bring in numbers that relate to demography and geography in East Asia (perhaps as compared to here!). I use the teaching tolerance social justice standards in my classroom as well as the required standards set by the state and that gives us opportunities to delve into learning about cultural diversity. When we learn about Lunar New Year for example, I could bring in more sources that relate to demographics and geography in East Asia and guide my students in analyizing these sources for main ideas and key information (relating to informational text comprehension standards as well)! Just some initial thoughts. Thanks for reading!
The videos and articles all addressed global population decline and birth rate has dropped dramatically over the past five years in China. In 2021, some provinces in China have the lowest birth rate since the year 1960. What's worse, demographers are predicting record lowest birth rate this year. If the current situation continues, the effects related to the nation's education will be significant. Many k-12 schools are worried they may not have enough students. I am thinking how I can help my students understand what drives an aging society and motivate them to discuss the advatages and challenges and impacts during the Mandarin class.
According to the video, freshwater resource is very scarce in China. One of the main reasons is the rapid industry development. The process of recycling freshwater is often neglected or ignored, because of the low-cost and maximized business profit. Nowadays, some areas begin to put recycling freshwater into their priority, instead of pollution first and treatment next. Hopefully this situation will get improved in the near future.